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Jan 10, 2008 10:49:39 GMT -5
Post by mtmomx3 on Jan 10, 2008 10:49:39 GMT -5
Olivia has been on cereal since she was two months old. She is almost 7 months and eats third foods all the time she also eats whatever we are eating. We did the wait a few days in between each food but we started solids way earlier than they say to. I did with my older two also and they turned out ok. I think if you go completely by the book they are behind in learning to eat independantly. My nephew will be 2 in april, his mom is a first time mom and did everything according to doc orders, he still can't bite off peices of dood, you have to cut it tiny like I do for Liv. He is unable to manipulate silverware and if you give him like half a banana to eat, he does not bite peices off he sticks the whole thing in his mouth and chokes. He still snacks on those gerber graduate puffs and eats those gerber tv dinners and gets baby cereal everynight before bed. Don't get me wrong this kid is very smart, but his motor skills are delayed because she never fed him more than runny baby food until he was a year and she does not like him dirty so he was never allowed to take the sthingy and feed himself.
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Jan 10, 2008 15:07:18 GMT -5
Post by pamcrt on Jan 10, 2008 15:07:18 GMT -5
Ohh man, that would have never lasted in my house. My daughter was FEEDING herself by the time she was 1 1/2 yrs. It wasn't that I was lazy, I just wanted her to be independent. She could dress herself FULLY by 2- socks, shirts, pants, underwear, shoes, everything... The only thing she couldn't do was tie her shoes... I didn't have that much expectations okay, she learned to do that on her own this past year when she was still 4... where she got it I'll never know... But I was a single mom who worked long hours and I needed her to do things for herself (or so I thought- I was a first time mom who didn't know any better) so I just taught her early. But she is very smart now and independent. WAY better than my other kids her age who act like they can't breathe on their own!
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Jan 10, 2008 15:17:42 GMT -5
Post by mtmomx3 on Jan 10, 2008 15:17:42 GMT -5
Yeah its rough watching him, my kids were very independant and he is a challange. I go to take him out of the car and I will tell him to take his arms out of his carseat and he justs sits there. He is very babied and they do everything for him, that is hard on me when I have Liv to care for and they keep me on my toes for sure.
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Jan 10, 2008 15:43:19 GMT -5
Post by pamcrt on Jan 10, 2008 15:43:19 GMT -5
My youngest does that and she's 4, she still tries to get away with being "babied" by her grandmother, but we don't put up with it, but it is hard when the woman lives in my house and undermines everything I do. But then on the other side of the coin, the child has no fear of anything and will hang off the end of the bunk beds or her dresser (butt naked mind you) and fall off narrowly missing the corners and then laugh about it. But she will scream bloody murder if she stubs her toe. And she is so mean to the dog we have had to ban her from even looking at him. It's like she has some sort of antisocial behavior or something. Every time she is near him she HAS to hurt him... seriously. Yesterday, she threw a basketball at him, kicked him and this morning kicked him while she was putting on her shoe, all for NO reason, just because she is mean. Jenn, what the hell does that mean?? I have tried spanking her, putting her in time outs, taking things away, not giving her the treats after dinner that the other girls get. She just doesn't care. She is so challenging and takes so much energy out of me, it seriously (and don't take this the wrong way, but if you spent one day with the child you would know where I was coming from) takes everything I have to keep from beating the hell out of her. I have to pray so hard everyday for strength not to because I SO COULD... very easy. She tries me that much.
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Jan 10, 2008 17:12:40 GMT -5
Post by ahoward on Jan 10, 2008 17:12:40 GMT -5
Garren started rice cereal (in the box) at 4 months of age on the recommendations of our ped. Simply because he spits up so bad, even still. Our ped thought the thicker cereal may help decrease the spitting. No such luck, but since that time we have slowly introduced veggies and fruit. He is now on stage 2's ( carrots, squash, green beans, sweet pot., applesauce, pears and now even the mixed fruits). He hasn't had any issues thus far, tolerating the foods. Sometimes he does spit them back at me and it's messy but overall he enjoys eating solids. His formula intake did decrease some once he started taking the solids and Jenn you are right they are supposed to be taking around 24-30oz a day. Garren does occasionally take the upper end of that but most of the time he's usually getting 24-26oz a day and solids 2 times a day. I will usually try to give a veggie and fruit for lunch and a veggies and fruit for dinner or 2 types of veggies at dinner, just depends. This has worked pretty well for us so far. I am ready to try those mashed potatoes with him....I'll be he'll love em. Audrey
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Jan 11, 2008 8:31:10 GMT -5
Post by deeter54 on Jan 11, 2008 8:31:10 GMT -5
Thanks for the information. It has been helpful. You think the foods would be healthier than formula. I know the ped. says not but you get alot of antioxidants and such from foods. Just my opinion.
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Jan 11, 2008 8:36:55 GMT -5
Post by deeter54 on Jan 11, 2008 8:36:55 GMT -5
Pam it sounds like she could have an attachment disorder. Isn't this the child that mom left for hours in her seat. She may have learned not to trust due to this. I work with kids and many of them display the same type of behavior. I would have her evaluated.
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Jan 11, 2008 8:40:50 GMT -5
Post by pamcrt on Jan 11, 2008 8:40:50 GMT -5
No, she isn't the one that was left in her seat. That was just has other issues. This one their bio mother left when she was six months old so she doesn't really know her. In her mind, I had her, she knows she has "another mother", but I am mom, therefore- I had her, like I had Abby. Weird reasoning, but that's a child for you. I think she has a real problem with knowing she isn't the baby anymore and that there are others (Abby, the dog) that are taking her place and she is being forced to grow up whether she likes it or not.
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Jan 11, 2008 8:42:46 GMT -5
Post by deeter54 on Jan 11, 2008 8:42:46 GMT -5
Pam , I am working with a seven year old right now who I think broke his dogs back. This same child also tried to push a dirt bike over on me. He has attachment problems due to a drug addicted mother who could not meet his needs. It is mind boggling how a child is treated in infancy can affect his/her whole life.
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Jan 11, 2008 8:54:09 GMT -5
Post by pamcrt on Jan 11, 2008 8:54:09 GMT -5
I just don't get it, I really don't. I mean my husband is an awesome dad and after he and his ex split he did everything he had to to keep a roof over those kids head. he went back into the military, was almost deployed to Kosovo, but didn't go, worked 2 jobs at one point, all with absolutely no help from their mom because she was to busy out making babies with other guys. He has always had the girls, she never could handle them, that's why she's in Macedonia. I just don't know what to do with her to keep her from doing these things. I seriously think she needs counseling but I don't think my husband will go for it because I don't think he is ready to see that her issues are really that big you know, that they've gotten that far. Makes me sad.
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Jan 11, 2008 9:01:36 GMT -5
Post by deeter54 on Jan 11, 2008 9:01:36 GMT -5
He does sound like a great Dad. She is still real young. She would be pretty receptive to change right now. It is sad when a child is acting out and it seems like nothing helps. We all just went through it and some still are.
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Jan 12, 2008 0:05:44 GMT -5
Post by llamajenn on Jan 12, 2008 0:05:44 GMT -5
I agree that it could be attachment disorder.... Otherwise you are right about the "antisocial" tendencies. Before 18 it's usually diagnosed as a conduct disorder or, in more severe cases, Oppositional Defiant Disorder. She also sounds a little like my sister was in terms of maybe being attention-seeking and challenging. (My sis is 24 now and is pretty much a textbook case of histrionic personality disorder. But there are differences between them.) Who knows, it could just be that she's testing the limits and not responding well to the inconsistency in parenting (first with her bio mom, then with her grandma undermining your authority). Genetics could have something to do with it, too. An Adlerian therapist would probably attribute much of it to birth order. Oh, and taking things out on the dog is a classic Freudian defense mechanism (displacement).
I don't have much experience counseling younger kids -- and none that young -- but we actually have had patients that young in our psych unit. Pretty sad. I'm guessing she may indeed benefit from counseling if your husband will agree to it. It won't be the traditional type of counseling but most likely play therapy...maybe they might do some basic behavior modification also. Kids go through stages and change a lot, but I do think she needs some help sooner than later, or things will get worse. It's good that she has caring parents now.
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